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mklip2001's avatar

Onosato has impressed me this basho by learning how to counterstrike, basically. So many of his bouts now have him parrying or blocking an initial attack and then coming back hard. This must be tough for opponents to expect him to try and steamroll them from the outset. I really like this stylistic adjustment from Onosato, more than him trying hatakikomi a bunch.

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Tim Bissell's avatar

That's a good spot. Onosato has been a lot more of a pusher/thruster in this tournament, using his hands to swat away the opening and then driving forwards with thrusts (not just getting an underhook and forcing out with his body). In this tournament he's had eight pushing/thrusting wins (two oshidashi, two tsukidashi, two oshitaoshi, two tsukiotoshi). He had six in the entire last tournament. He only has five career tsukidashi wins in total.

Maybe he's learning that it's less of a toll on his body to push someone out at arm's length then it is to smash into their body.

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Dj sto's avatar

Hi All, well I am starting with Onosato and Hoshoryu

Both now on 11-1 the relief on Onosato was evident, but Hoshoryu now cannot afford to loose any more bouts, we all know that the Ruling Body have shot a warning at his performances since he made Yokozuna !!

Clearly Onosato paid particular attention to July re plays, he’s completely changed his mode of attack, his opponents taken by surprise as he slides back relaxed blocks a bit parries a bit, lures them in to a false sense of “oh this is so easy” and then bang their hit by the truck and gone with push and thrusts.

I worry about Hoshoryu I don’t see him beating Hakuoho I am afraid.

Just look at Takanosho he is rallying the troops around him and then blowing them up ! He’s amazing and he looks good, it must be said though I worry about his breathing at end of.

And you by now know where I end

Atamifuji, what happened to him? Yes he’s now playing in the big boys pen but he’s just not turning up, in a couple of cases he barely put up a fight ?

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Tim Bissell's avatar

Onosato has looked frightening this tournament. He is really under control and when he elects to really put his muscle into a thrust he can put guys in the third or fourth row.

Takanosho is a welcome surprise, again. Every now and then he seems to get momentum and is able to almost crash the party.

Yeah, poor Atamifuji. I feel like I'm seeing a lot of anxiety from him on the dohyo. He might be injured and that might be effecting him mentally. Still lots of time for him to grow, though.

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Dj sto's avatar

Shock today guys! Hoshoryu crashed out to Kotozakura, though not wholly surprised, strangely I was never that keen on the present Ozeki, but he has grown on me over past few basho

Aonishiki plastered Takanosho, and at last we saw that move of thigh grabbing push down, the very first move we saw from him in July , that move completely threw a spanner in the works then, so why leave it till now?

But still Takanosho is 10-3 as is Aonishiki

Atamifuji won his bout, but it’s not good is it 4-9 I agree I feel like he’s possibly injured, I’m not making excuses for him, but he looked in pain on his last lose!

We have to face the fact Hoshoryu is in trouble we know it , and he knows it , he absolutely knew he needed at least 12-3 to appease the sumo committee

Tim is always right, Kotozakura is looking like a Yokozuna, he is respected and when he arrives the crowd notice him, the other Rikishi pay attention and stand aside, that is still not happening with either Onosato or Hoshoryu and it’s a problem and it’s making the committee nervous

I feel possibly it’s all over for Hoshoryu, I would love to be wrong on this, but the sumo committee were quite clear on expectations, he needs to be completely ruthless now or it might be next week “was he pushed or did he fall ?

Onosato is in a better position, but still the committee are not 100% happy with him either, A Yokozuna is expected to be a whole package, it’s not enough to just win, they need the respect of not just the crowd but the Rikishi at every level , to lead and no matter which way we flour it , that’s not there yet .

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Toki's avatar

"destined for Emperor’s Cups and perhaps even the big white rope"

Don't jinx it🤞 I'm so excited to see how Aonishiki's career plays out! oh and a bit off topic but do you happen to have a gif of Onosato getting up, bowing, and walking away after Aonishiki beat Hoshoryu? Would love to add that to my little sumo meme and gif collection

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Tim Bissell's avatar

I do not have that gif, sorry! I usually make a batch of gifs after the tournament, so I'll share it if it comes up or if I find something close to it. In the meantime, here's where I used to put all my gifs: https://giphy.com/channel/TZ85 Some good ones in there.

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Toki's avatar

Ohh very cool!

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